V This Guardian Blog thread caught my eye on December 18th 2006. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2006/dec/18/anopenletternotfromrichar
In it, Theo Hobson posts the kind of round-robin letter he postulates Richard Dawkins might circulate this Yuletide to his ´fellow rationalists´ as a, good natured, DISincentive to
Nativity Nonsense, eh?I chipped in with -
Comment No. 342986
Comment No. 342986
Find this thread a trifle odd, theo.
What does R. Dawkins not seeing the beauty of the Nativity story have to do with any kind of criticism of the man?
Also, I am always struck by how people embrace religions as a faith thing... and then how quite a few of them then expend energy trying to prove certain aspects of their creed (not that that is the case so much with this particular blog, though.)
I mean; if something has sufficient evidence to back it up, it is hardly a matter of faith any more, is it?
jonniestewpot posts -
"GBR So take him on trash his arguments. Put up a serious case for God. Prove to Dawkins satisfaction God exists. Dawkins has said if God knocks on my door and he introduces himself to me I'll accept his existence."
With respect, arguing for God and against Darwinism are not at all the same thing.
I know those who stridently oppose Darwinism whilst embracing no religious belief.
Darwinism is utter codswallop, as may easily be demonstrated by any proper assessment of the ideas and the evidence produced to support it.
Belief in God is something else, however.
Challenging one in no way means that acceptance of the other has to be made.
And, two hours later, and more significantly for coincidental material, I added this Comment -
Comment No. 343137
December 18 21:12
Comment No. 343137
December 18 21:12
For Humanzee and johnnystewpot - I have posted against Darwinism passim, so I�ll not do so yet again.
Troll back through the more recent blogs of Hobson, Jha, Grayling, Blackmore, et al.
Darwinism is harmless codswallop. Militant, intolerant religions are extremely dangerous.
Before closing, let me note a few things from this thread.
I think that Jeremy James and I once presented BBC TV programmes together in the 1980s. (The significance of that, dear reader, being that Jeremy James had made a contribution to the thread.)
I once journeyed to the temple of Darwinism (a.k.a.) The Natural History Museum, and saw Tom Baker (who spent ten years as a monk) get off the train with me. His voice was later to be heard on a voiceover at the museum. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Baker He was married to the woman who was his Dr Who assistant and is now the third wife of R. Dawkins: Lalla Ward. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lalla_Ward
LordSummerisle posts -
LordSummerisle posts -
"... as an interesting aside, it was Douglas Adams another great atheist, when he was Script Editor for Doctor Who that introduced Richard Dawkins and Lalla Ward."
My wife knew Douglas Adams.
And I just noticed this, on Yahoo! -
"Doctor Who returns to TV screens on Christmas Day with its most terrifying monster yet.
Younger viewers may find the half-human, half-spider Empress of Rachnos too scary to watch.
Cutting It star Sarah Parish is unrecognisable in the role.
The festive episode is called The Runaway Bride."
Doctor returns on Christmas Day... Parish... Runaway Bride...
Mick Brown told me that he had once interviewed Dawkins, heard his atheistic spiel and insistance that physical reality is all that exists. Brown.asked of him (in a bewildered tone) " Well; what do you think love is, then?"
"Just some electricity firing across neurons", came the response.
Brown told me he then found himself saying to Dawkins, "Well no wonder you´re twice divorced."
LordSummerisle posted at the above thread -
Mick Brown told me that he had once interviewed Dawkins, heard his atheistic spiel and insistance that physical reality is all that exists. Brown.asked of him (in a bewildered tone) " Well; what do you think love is, then?"
"Just some electricity firing across neurons", came the response.
Brown told me he then found himself saying to Dawkins, "Well no wonder you´re twice divorced."
LordSummerisle posted at the above thread -
"... as an interesting aside, it was Douglas Adams another great atheist, when he was Script Editor for Doctor Who that introduced Richard Dawkins and Lalla Ward."
In her (above) Wikipedia entry Ward reveals that her long friendship with Douglas Adams, with whom she worked on Doctor Who, meant more to her and was "more valuable and more enduring" than her marriage to Baker.
(In fact, my own wife told me Douglas Adams had once gotten very friendly with her too...
Then I noticed this –
d) "Doctor Who returns to TV screens on Christmas Day with its most terrifying monster yet. Younger viewers may find the half-human, half-spider Empress of Rachnos too scary to watch. Cutting It star Sarah Parish is unrecognisable in the role. She admitted that even her own family might run for cover at the sight of her character when they sit down to watch the festive episode, called The Runaway Bride."
Also note - http://www.bbc.co.uk/somerset/content/articles/2006/12/07/doctor_who_poll_feature.shtml
e) Re the theme of Runaway Brides, it could be noted that Lalla Ward and Sarah Parish, are essentially the same names!
Ms Ward uses the name ´Lalla´, although she was christened Sarah. Apparently she mispronounced Sarah as a child, and the moniker stuck. And "parish" and "ward" are small areas -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parish and definitions 6 and 7 here http://www.yourdictionary.com/ward
Baker´s bride left him... and married Dawkins.
f) After leaving the Natural History Museum that afternoon, my family and I boarded a London bus.
At a stop we passed en route I spotted an ex- work colleague, Tim Vaughan-Hughes (See Entry 93).
And lastly, this extraordinary codicil -
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/russell-t-davies-return-of-the-tea-time-lord-805255.html
introduces the Dr (Dawkins) himself into the series!
In 2016, Richard Dawkins and Lalla Ward announced they had, amicably, separated.
In her (above) Wikipedia entry Ward reveals that her long friendship with Douglas Adams, with whom she worked on Doctor Who, meant more to her and was "more valuable and more enduring" than her marriage to Baker.
(In fact, my own wife told me Douglas Adams had once gotten very friendly with her too...
Then I noticed this –
d) "Doctor Who returns to TV screens on Christmas Day with its most terrifying monster yet. Younger viewers may find the half-human, half-spider Empress of Rachnos too scary to watch. Cutting It star Sarah Parish is unrecognisable in the role. She admitted that even her own family might run for cover at the sight of her character when they sit down to watch the festive episode, called The Runaway Bride."
More detail here -
Also note - http://www.bbc.co.uk/somerset/content/articles/2006/12/07/doctor_who_poll_feature.shtml
e) Re the theme of Runaway Brides, it could be noted that Lalla Ward and Sarah Parish, are essentially the same names!
Ms Ward uses the name ´Lalla´, although she was christened Sarah. Apparently she mispronounced Sarah as a child, and the moniker stuck. And "parish" and "ward" are small areas -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parish and definitions 6 and 7 here http://www.yourdictionary.com/ward
Baker´s bride left him... and married Dawkins.
f) After leaving the Natural History Museum that afternoon, my family and I boarded a London bus.
At a stop we passed en route I spotted an ex- work colleague, Tim Vaughan-Hughes (See Entry 93).
And lastly, this extraordinary codicil -
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/russell-t-davies-return-of-the-tea-time-lord-805255.html
introduces the Dr (Dawkins) himself into the series!
In 2016, Richard Dawkins and Lalla Ward announced they had, amicably, separated.
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